Issue 89 -
PENNINE SLIDE COMPETITION
Members are reminded that the annual Pennine Slide Competition will
be held at "The Taps" on Wednesday 5 October 1994. This is always a
popular event so don't forget this date and bring along 4 of your
railway slides which you think will catch the judge's
eye. There will be cash prizes and trophies for lst, 2nd, and 3rd
Those entering slides are asked to arrive slightly earlier than
usual to ensure.smooth running of the event.
We remind members that our social evenings at The Corporation
Brewery Taps, Doncaster, are now held on the lst and 3rd Wednesdays
of each :month.
Meetings start at 20.00hrs and continue to be well attended. All are
welcome - members are encouraged to bring friends along even if they
are not members.
Details of our Autumn programme are shown at the back of this
We Regret To Announce
Further bizarre explanations produced by BR:
A recent 17.30 Exeter St Davids-Paignton service was cancelled
because the conductor refused to wear a tie when temperatures were
in the 80s. Rail chiefs said they had no option but to cancel the
Western Regional Railways Manager Barry Knock, nicknamed "Mr Blobby"
by colleagues ordered the cancellation. Another guard said of Knock
"He's a complete -pillock".
A recent service was delayed 14 minutes at Sheffield due to a guide
dog stuck under a seat.
"Watters for England?"
Cricket buffs will realise that the England cricket team is becoming
dominated by Yorkshiremen. Supremo Raymond Illingworth has even
sacked the team's religious adviser Reverend Andrew Wingfield Digby
Will our own Reverend Andrew J Watts, late of the parish of Balby be
in line for the job?
Bike To Work
The first of the one day strikes called by RMT over the signalmen's
dispute coincided with national "Bike To Work Day,, That should have
made Norman "On Yer Bike" Tebbit smile!
The Voice of Radio
The soothing Barnsley tones of our President, Geoff Bambrough
greeted awakening listeners of "Great Yorkshire Gold" on 4 July.
Our Quality Assurance Officer from Silverwood pit was heard taking
part in a competition. He was asked to name 10 Motown artists in 30
seconds. With assistance from the studio DJ he struggled to name 4.
Lucky he wasn't asked questions on railways.
Chunnel Delayed Again
The saga of the opening of the Channel Tunnel rolls on. The start of
passenger services is now put back to "at least the autumn", costing
an estimated £150m in lost revenue. This is because the rail network
on the British side is not ready for the new Eurostar high-speed
Trains were due to start running during summer 1993. The only trains
running so far are freight (on a limited basis).
Officials also want more tests done on evacuation procedures after
800 volunteer passengers were stranded during an evacuation drill
after an electrical fault brought their train to a standstill deep
under the seabed.
Dr Marje Skinner
Our latest poser for Dr Skinner comes from Johnny of Sheffield. He
asks Marje to explain the recent advert for the Inter-Rail pass
featuring 12 unusually shaped things.
Dr Skinner replies, "Dear Johnny, the advertisement aimed at
promoting the Inter-Rail pass for young people wanting to travel
around Europe was a parody of the European Union flag, replacing the
circle of 12 stars with a dozen condoms. The text proclaimed "You've
got the rest of your life to be good". Following protests that the
advert was in bad taste, it will not be repeated."
Schoolgirls Show BR How To Run A Railway
The schoolgirl tycoons from Moreton Hall School, Oswestry, have
announced booming profits a year after opening their own booking
office at the previously unmanned Gobowen station.
They have taken almost £250,000 over the counter, and are now trying
to get Whittington station reopened. They also intend to take over a
second , larger, building at Gobowen.
Voyeurs should note that Gobowen is the first station on the
Railtrack is so desperate to make the profit demanded by Government
that it is prepared to grab money destined for charities.
They are targeting rail Open Days. Recently Railtrack demanded £7.50
per mile for each train or engine to use its tracks to get to Exeter
Riverside station. The fair only went ahead after Railtrack agreed
to a one-off waiving of its access charge.
Similar stories can be told at Worcester and the West Highland line.
Know Your Routes
Until June, travellers using InterCity Cross Country services were
able to travel by "any reasonable route". Now managers on these
routes are telling passengers they can only travel by one route,
often not the best one.
You now cannot travel from Cardiff to Preston on the hourly service
via Crewe; you must go via Wolverhampton. Travellers from South
Wales to Scotland with through tickets to Stirling and points north
are now routed via Lancaster, denied access to the modernised ECML.
In addition, a whole range of tickets have been withdrawn. For
example, managers on the former InterCity West Coast Main Line have
withdrawn the full range of SuperSaver tickets from former InterCity
services. As a result passengers from Birmingham, Rugby, Coventry,
Wolverhampton and Telford cannot use SuperSavers valid for a month
for travel to London.
Stations on the new South Central and South West Trains show maps
with lines only run by their individual segment. According to the
new South Central in-train maps, Beckenham Junction is a terminus
with no connections to anywhere. What a way to run a railway!
Conflict of Interest
Coopers & Lybrand, accountants,. have been appointed as "reporting
accountants" to the Office of Passenger Rail Franchising (OPRAF) as
part of the rail privatisation programme for a reported fee of £2m
over 18 months.
Coopers & Lybrand earlier received £1.7m for advising the Department
of Transport how to privatise the railways. The Secretary of State's
Special Adviser was Sir Christopher Foster, director and head of
economics practice at Coopers & Lybrand. As soon as Railtrack, the
centrepiece of the new privatised railway was set up, he resigned as
adviser to the Secretary of State and gratefully accepted from him
the job of deputy chairman of Railtrack.
Coopers & Lybrand deny any conflict of interest in their work for
the privatised railway!
Look Out, Look Out
Rail privatisation depends on how drastically hefty safety costs,
which previously saddled BR, can be avoided.
Railtrack, the infrastructure body under government pressure to make
an eventual 8% return is considering ways to get rid of the time
honoured practice of placing lookout men to guard sections of track
where engineers are working.
Its solution is to ban trains outright from coming within miles of
any workmen on the track and dispense with its lookouts, since
there would be nothing for them to look out for. This brilliant plan
would require miles and miles of lines to be taken out of use so
that just a few yards could be repaired, thereby disrupting journeys
even more than now.
This could only be contemplated by a body unaccountable to fare
paying passengers. It would cause headaches for the train operators,
but Railtrack's only concern is to maintain the tracks and stations
as cheaply as possible so it can be privatised.
It takes some doing to be sacked from a post in Prime Minister John
However Secretary of State for Transport, John MacGregor has managed
just that. His disastrous intervention (or non intervention) in the
RMT signalmen's pay negotiations has seen him sacked from the post.
In Major-Ball's recent Cabinet "shuffle" he has been replaced by Dr
Brian Mawhinney. Let's hope he shows more industrial relations
common sense than his predecessor. Who would have believed that
Jimmy "The Dinosaur" Knapp would receive the support of the public
for his RMT industrial action!
Pennine Visit Keighley & Worth Valley Railway
As part of our 20th Anniversary celebrations, on 27 July we hired a
train for an evening excursion on the KWVR.
An excellent evening was had by all who took part. We expected DMU
haulage, but to our surprise power was provided by Gardner engined
Hudswell-Clarke shunter D2511 hauling a single ex-SR coach.
As a bonus, cab rides were also available to our members.
Sad to report that Paul "Sutty" Sutton was unable to take part in
the visit. He arrived to catch the bus from Doncaster, but had to
return home after establishing that the trip would arrive back after
midnight. Something to do with midnight and pumpkins was one
BR Raise Prices To Cut Holiday Trains
BR have put up prices to drive passengers away from some top holiday
routes. Yarmouth and Skegness in particular suffer. A BR document
said "These fares are being introduced in an effort to dampen down
demand on routes for which we cannot economically afford to provide
A Saturday return ticket from Birmingham to Yarmouth has gone up £10
European Legislation Threatens Steam
A danger to private lines comes from European proposals drawn up
to protect workers in factories and kitchens. Legislation requires
all hot surfaces and pipes to be painted a bright colour lagged and
insulated, warning signs erected and obtruding objects covered in
If implemented on steam locomotives this would involve a costly and
radical redesign and would ruin their visual appearance.
British Euro-MPs have introduced an amendment exempting British
steam trains from the proposals. Perhaps PM Major-Ball could write
to his new friend, Euro Leader Mr Santer on this subject. He might
write at Christmas in his letter to Santer.
Steaming Out of The Past
Work has started on recreating a mainline steam locomotive, the
first to be built in this country since 1960. The A1 Steam
Locomotive Trust is leading the £1.3m scheme to build a replica A1
class locomotive. When completed in 1998 it will qo into service on
the Railtrack network and. privately-owned lines.
It is likely to be named "Tornado" because the idea was conceived
during the Gulf War.
Propaganda at Sheffield
On 3/4 August during industrial action by RMT signalmen, it was
proudly announced that for the first time during the strikes, trains
would be running into Sheffield. This "service" amounted to a single
train each hour between Sheffield and Doncaster!
Government Intervenes in Signalmen's Pay Negotiations -
Trains Brought To Standstill
The timetable of talks leading to industrial action by signalmen was
April 8 - Railtrack is formed and meets with RMT. They offer to move
the lowest grade of signalman up one place and
offer £100 each to other workers depending on meeting certain
May 9 - Railtrack increases lump sum payment offer to £140.
June 7-9- Railtrack state "We wish to restore the relativities of
signalling grades as detailed in RMT claim of Feb 1994.
We therefore propose to restore the relativity of Grade A signalmen
with the R02. This figure which is
set at 5.7% will then be cascaded throughout all signalling grades.
The new basic rate will then be the base position for stage 11
June 13 - Railtrack withdraws offer.
Railtrack Chairman Bob Horton claimed the offer was never made and
blamed an over zealous junior manager. The then Transport Secretary,
John Macgregor denied any Government involvement in negotiations.
Swift U-turns followed with Horton saying "The Government has said
it wants to keep downward pressure on pay. It is the 100%
shareholder in Railtrack." MacGregor then confirmed he had
repeatedly warned Railtrack against an above-inflation pay deal,
reinforced AFTER rail bosses offered the 5.7% package!
Railtrack Chairman, Bob Horton came from BP where he sacked 100s at
BP Tankers, closed down 20 depots in BP chemicals, and sacked most
middle management in Standard Oil, Ohio.
He became BP Chairman in 1990, sacked middle managers and closed
down offices. In 1990 BP profits were £1.7bn. After his first year
of dynamic management they were £415m and falling. He was later
sacked with a £1.5m handshake.
His perennial friend and worshipper John MacGregor needed a hatchet
man to humiliate and sack workers on the new privatised railway.
Step forward Horton.
Welcome to the Autumn edition of 'Trans Pennine'. The summer has
been somewhat spoiled by the non-antics of the RMT, led by the clear
speaking totally understandable Jimmy Knapp and the Railtrack
management which is not in any way shape or form being led by Dr
Mulwhinnie. We all know what happened the last time a Doctor and
Britain's railways got together. Are we about to see history repeat
itself? Let us hope that common sense prevails before long and that
the disruption will be history by the time you read these notes.
PENNINE QUIZ NO.78
1st prize for the latest brain teaser was jointly won by Ian
Shenton and Ken King with 3rd prize to Paul Slater.
Required answers were as follows:-
1) 60007, 2) 1864. 3) 7/1211960, 4) 37177/253, 5) 6/311966, 6)
D9010, 7) 16/3/1959, 8)D201 (40001), 9) 55016, 10) Landore, 11)
Newcastle, 12) Morpeth, 13) 2/10/1988, 14) 16110/1988, 15) Seaforth
Sands, 16) 29/7/1966, 17) 46202, 45637, 46242, 18) Catherine Zeta
Jones (beast!), 19) Wellingborough-Bedford, 20) 2m 338 yards, 21)
Taunton-Tiverton, 22) Watercress Line, 23) Osprey, 24) 31202/226,
25) The Bluebell Railway, 26) Westmoreland, 27) 4478, 28) 11/811988,
29) 1M 255 yards, 30) Pevensey Bay/Cooden Beach, 31) Cambridge, 32)
Bodmin, 33) Royal Fusilier, 34) Gloucester, 35) Newington, 36)
1711011964, 37) York-Hull via Market Weighton, 38) 53A/50B, 39)
Selby-Driffield via Market Weighton, 40) 2617/1983.
In a recent interview on Radio 4, Jimmy Knapp, in answer to the
following question from Peter Hobday "But Isn't it true that 50% of
your members are ready to accept this deal now?", Jurassic Jimmy
replied "That's not the case at all - quite the reverse in fact"
Incidentally, now it looks as If there will be an agreement with
Sinn Fein long before there is one with the signalmen, will the time
come when Jimmy's nightly reflections will have to be simulated by a
37113 Rams HST
37113 ran away, driverless from Waverley Station, Edinburgh, on 13
August 1994, colliding with the Newquay-Edinburgh HST, at Abbeyhill.
Five new companies were Involved in the subsequent investigation,
InterCity Cross Country which owns the passenger train, ScotRail
which operates the locomotive, the leasing company which owns the
locomotive, Railtrack which owns the track and signalling, and
Waverley Station, an independent company separate from Railtrack.
Prior to April Fools Day 1994 BR had responsibility for everything
that happened on the railways. Now the buck stops there, there,
there, there and there. Those awaiting compensation as a result of
their injuries may be subjected to considerable delay.
STEAM IN WEST WALES
by Paul Slater
At the Late spring Bank Holiday In 1993 a series of steam trains ran
In West Wales. Chris and I booked places on two of them and on the
Saturday we set off for Carmarthen which was a very long drive. On
the way we diverted from the M42 and headed down narrow country
Lanes so that I could show Chris the famous Lickey Incline, formerly
one of the best known locations for railway photography in the whole
country. From a flowery field beside the Line, where once I had
watched steam locomotives tolling up the bank, we saw
sprinters, HST's and Class 47's, whilst I reminisced about
'Black 5's, Jubilees, 9Ps and Pannier tanks. I made three visits to
the Lickey In the early 1960's. I am now very glad that I saw the
incline first in full steam operation and then with various
combinations of steam and diesel train engines and bankers adding
Back on the motorway, we continued in a south westerly direction.
Rain felt, afternoon turned to evening as we drove through the green
hills of Wales and at last we checked into a motel standing beside
the A40 main road between Carmarthen and St Clear. After breakfast
the next day, we drove through a downpour to Whitland to see BR
Standard 2-6-4T no.80079 heading one of the steam specials, a trains
from Carmarthen to Tenby. We got a better look at the engine than we
had expected as it could not re-start from a stop by the signalbox
to collect the token for the single track Pembroke Dock branch.
The engine stood for a long time an the level crossing by the
station, hissing and roaring and erupting great clouds of steam
until at last it got under way and came through the station
accelerating hard. We watched it steam away on the Pembroke Dock
branch, then drove off for some exploration of the local
countryside. The train in fact never reached Tenby, the steep
gradients and sharp curves on the branch and the rain making the
rails very slippery finally defeated 80079, and it had to be rescued
by the other steam locomotive involved in the West Wales specials
4-6-0 No.44767 George Stephenson.
We were at Carmarthen In good time for the afternoon special to
Fishguard, hauled by 44767. The weather had improved somewhat and it
was a most enjoyable ride along the switchback West Wales main Line
through the hilly green countryside. "George Stephenson" audibly
working hard on the up grade sections. The train halted at
Clarbeston Rd station where the Fishguard and Milford Haven lines
diverge and where the engine took water. Then we were off again on a
pleasant ride through rural Pembrokeshire at last dropping down
through picturesque scenery to the station at Fishguard Harbour.
We enjoyed the sight of the sea and the cliffs, and "George
Stephenson" was the focus of much admiring attention as It ran round
its train ready for the return to Carmarthen. Along with many other
people we climbed onto a road side wall to photograph the engine as
it reversed along the quay. A triangular notice got in my way as I
tried to find another vantage point, but when I saw what it was , I
could not resist including it in my pictures of 44767; it was the
notice that warns drivers of an ungated railway crossing the road,
and depicts a 4-6-0 steam Locomotive, very appropriate.
There was a chance for further photography as "George Stephenson"
ran forward over the level crossing at the south end of the station
and then backed down on to its train, blowing off steam ready for
the climb out of Fishguard. Soon we were off, the engine making a
vigorous departure from the Harbour station and accelerating noisily
through the suburb of Goodwick before storming up the long incline
away from the coast. We halted again at Clarbeston Rd, then set off
for Carmarthen, where 2-6-4T 80079 was getting ready to depart for
Swansea. It backed on to the other end of the train in which we had
just arrived from Fishguard, and not long afterwards, standing on
the opposite platform as sunshine through a heavy shower of rain
made a dramatic lighting condition, we watched It steam away.
Next morning we drove to Carmarthen again for the second of the
steam specials on which we had booked seats. This was running to
Milford Haven hauled by 80079 with stops at Clarbeston Rd and
Haverfordwest. There were no problems with the engine on this trip,
the weather had improved, the sun was shining and 80079 really
raised the echoes as It thundered along past St. Clear, Whitland and
Clynderwen. The only difficulty was with the points at Milford
Haven. The set of points which was needed to allow 80079 to run
round jammed, and the locomotive had to travel up the Line some
distance before it could back down onto its train. Eventually we
were at[ back on board and 80079 was climbing away up the bank out
of Mitford Haven en route to Carmarthen.
That afternoon we had time to go and sample a very different steam
operation In West Wales, the narrow gauge Teifi Valley Railway which
runs through attractive wooded countryside over part of the trackbed
of the Newcastle Emlyn branch, a former offshoot of the
Carmarthen-Aberystwyth line, itself now closed apart from the
preserved section from Bronwydd Arms known as the Gwili Railway.
0-4-0ST " Alan George" was working trains of the Teifi Railway tine
from Henllan to Pontpreshitw and Llandyfriog.
At last it was time to drive back over the hills to St. Clear and
our final night at the motel before setting off next morning, in
more rain, on the long drive back to Gainsborough. We had enjoyed
our weekend of steam in West Wales,
ALL OUR YESTERDAYS
A return by the popular article remembering days gone by,
highlighting how quickly time passes. In this edition we go back
five years to the summer of 1989.
July 23rd of that year found 50050 working the 09.50
Plymouth-Paignton which then formed the 11.25 Paignton-Waterloo.
This train was quickly followed through Ivybridge by an ex-works DMU
set forming a Laira-Exeter ECS working. HST power cars 430.35/43144
formed the 11.00 Plymouth-Manchester and 43133/24 the 08.25
Paddington-Penzance. The Burngullow-lrvine China Clay train was
headed by 37669/673, to be followed by 50035 which powered the 10.35
Penzance-Paddington. 47537 headed the 09.35 Paddington-Plymouth and
47632 the 11.20 Penzance-Glasgow. More Class 47 activity followed
with 47582 on the 12.50 Penzance-Manchester and 47665 on the 15.08
July the 29th found the usual mixture of Class 47 and 50 power on
Paddington-Oxford services when 47547, 50031 and 50024 work the
09.35, 10.00 and 11.00 departures from Oxford, whilst 50036 was used
to haul the 09. 17 Paddington-York, 47582 the 10. 17
Paddington-Oxford, 50034 the 10.50 Paddington-Newbury and 50033 the
11.15 Paddington-Oxford. Passenger services were interspersed by
47540 and 37222 which headed up freights and 56045 an up stone
working. The 08.18 Manchester-Folkestone saw 47818 at its head.
Later the same day 56033 worked down stone empties and 50026 the 11.
On August 6th 'West Country' 34092 City of Wells' and 'Jinty' 47279
shared the spoils on Keighley and Worth Valley railway workings.
An unusual sight on 19t h August came in the shape of 47401 working
t he 09. 50 Salisbury-Waterloo and 13. 15 Waterloo-Exeter. Normality
however returned when the 06. 45 Exeter-Waterloo and 08. 11
following service saw 50030 and 50007 respectively. The 10. 15
Waterloo-Salisbury saw 33118 used, returning on the 13, 18 to the
capital. 73110 powered a Poole-Waterloo boat train and 73109 a down
similar service later in the day.
47712/714/446 were all stabled at Oxford depot on the same day.
September 2nd saw 47477 head the 07.01 Liverpool-Newcastle followed
by 31465 on the 09.01 working. 47427 worked the 06.15
Liverpool-Newcastle, followed by 47603 on the 08.20 departure. The
11.01 Liverpool-Newcastle saw 47466 used and 47444 on the 13.01
More Class 47 domination, this time on the western region was
evident on September 23rd when 47828 headed the 08. 31
Bristol-Weymouth, 47432 the 08. 17 Paddington-Paignton, followed by
47573 on the 08. 45 Paddington-Penzance. 47472 headed eastbound on
the 09.05 Paignton-Paddington. The 10. 30 Weymouth-Bristol saw 33106
end the monotony and 50034 on the 10.20 Paignton-Paddington.
In the current RMT dispute, the news that non-executive directors of
Railtrack Group PLC receive £500 every time they attend a committee
meeting has been greeted with loud cheers in the signal boxes.
Railtrack Group PLC, not to be confused with plain old Railtrack
PLC, has three committees; audit, safety, and compensation. The most
arduous committee, compensation, has to decide the salaries
of 14full-time directors of Railtrack PLC.
Pennine's Treasurer John Sanderson has vowed that no Pennine
Committee member shall receive any attendance allowance bar that of
the holderof the post of Treasurer,
ABB Job Losses
Further job losses have been announced at the foreign
owned ABB train manufacturers based at York.
The losses are as a result of a falling order book based on
uncertainties in the industry following privatisation and are blamed
by many on the Government.
TOP TEN DIESEL WORKINGS THROUGH DORE
by Peter Hall
A society member, often sited doing overnights on the end of piers
spotting Trawlers, can be blamed for this article appearing in the
magazine. Said member, complained that my statement in 'Fifties -
Through Dore' that "at the time 50007 'Hercules' heading the
1043 Berwick Upon Tweed - Plymouth on 4th August 1979 seemed to be
the 'biggest' locomotive to work through Dore for years" was not
strictly correct. Had history recorded this to have been the only
Fifty ever to work through Dore, then it would have arguably been
the 'biggest' diesel ever! The reality of course was that Fifties
were to subsequently make over two hundred appearances and thus the
statement was soon superseded by events. If this working was
therefore not as 'big~ as it had first appeared, which were the
'biggest' diesel workings through Dore? This article therefore
concerns itself with what, in my opinion, are the ten most notable
diesel workings through Dore, which have occurred to the best of my
In compiling this listing I have disregarded any railtour and
related or similar workings. Such workings, in my opinion, have
little historical relevance, although obviously of interest, being
stage managed rather than a consequence of circumstances. Also
occasions of locomotives being dragged dead are excluded. It is
always going to be a difficult task to decide what to include and
what not to include and even the order of those included, however
for each I have attempted to put the working in context to give an
indication of its notoriety. It should be thus noted therefore that
locomotives which are not particularly unusual at Dore appear in the
listing by virtue of the working involved not being what was
expected of them. The top five workings are actually very obvious,
even the order of notoriety being self apparent, the second five
were however more difficult to determine, being very easily matched
for notoriety, only just piping several others for inclusion.
In true chart countdown style I therefore start with number ten:
10.20011 27/08/1985 1255 York-Cardiff relief
Although not unique, the use of single Twenties on passenger trains
through Dore is indeed rare, this being the first recorded one since
the Hope Valley Ramblers trains of twenty years earlier. On this
date, York was required to provide a number of locomotives for
relief trains etc., and is understood to have only been left with 20011 by
the time it had to provide motive power for the 1255 relief to
Cardiff. Thus it was used, in 1985 the option of cancelling a class
one train still did not exist! Fortunately the train was only load
five, 20011 working nose first, gallantly struggled on as far as
Birmingham New Street before a combination of late running, lack of
train crew and no replacement locomotive resulted in the train being
terminated. Subsequent to this a further two occurrences of Twenties
working singularly on passenger trains through Dore have been
recorded, 20019 on 30th May 1987 when a 1415 York-Derby Ecs was
commandeered to run as a passenger train and 20182 on 18th
March 1988 which dragged a failed DMU on the 1547
Sheffield-Manchester Piccadilly. Both these are in chart terms,
9. 20203+20204 03/06/1981 1134 Poole-Newcastle
In 1981, the use of pairs of twenties on passenger trains through
Dore was, with the exception of occasional Skegness trains and
failures still exceedingly rare. What however ensured this pair a
place in the chart, was their allocation, both being Haymarket
They had somehow worked their way to the Birmingham area and just
happened to be available for the 1134 Poole-Newcastle, a train
which at the time seemed to stretch locomotive resources and appear
through Dore with notable motive power quite frequently. On this
date the pair worked as far as Sheffield before being replaced with
something more suited to the working.
8. 50008 23104/1990 0922 Penzance-Glasgow Queen Street
(assisting failed HST)
A Fifty does however make it into the top ten, but not the
previously mentioned 50007 'Hercules~ The last regular workings of Fifties through Dore
were in the spring of f987 in
connection with overhauls at Doncaster Works. By 1990 it was thought
that the last
appearance by a Fifty on a normal working had long since passed.
Thus it was most surprising
when 50008 'Thunderer 'passed through Dore heading an
ailing HST on the 0922 Penzance-Glasgow Queen Street on 23rd April. What made this working so
remarkable is that by 1990, the any excuse to cancel a train
philosophy was becoming the norm, yet this one got through
to Sheffield anyway, before normality took over and the train was
'Thunderer' returning light locomotive. This was the final working
of a Fifty through Dore
other than on railtour duties.
7. 58007 08/0911984 1340 Poole-Sheffield
Class 58's have never been common at Dore on passenger trains, this
working being the only one to date were a Fifty Eight has worked a
timetabled train in its own right, as opposed to being the
consequence of an on route failure. The 1340 Poole-Sheffield only
ran this one summer and north of Birmingham New Street was routed by
way of Leicester and Nottingham. On this date, it appears resources
had been stretched to the limit at Birmingham and consequently 58007
was all that was available to haul this set of West Coast Main Line
air-conditioned stock. During that summer this train had
persistently produced notable motive power, considering its
route and consist, with 50017 'Royal Oak' on 23rd June, 47063 on 7th
July, 31407 on 28th July, 45038 on 11 th August and 31403 on
15th September, however one of the then new Class 58's was something
really special! Considering the amount of notable diesel passenger
workings through Dore during the summer of 1984, with grateful
thanks to King Arthur, this particular working certainly proved to
be the icing on the cake of what was probably the 'golden summer' of
diesel passenger workings.
6. 56009 13/0611992 0640 Derby-Scarborough
The most recent chart entry and without doubt most notable
passenger working through Dore of the 1990's so far was that of
56009 on 13th June 1992. It appears that the rostered Class 47/8 for
the 0640 Derby-Scarborough was not available at Derby on this
date, nor was any alternative ETH fitted locomotive, thus rather
than cancel the train as would have been expected at this time,
56009 was provided. Not only did 56009 work the 0640 Derby-Scarborough throughout but returned through Dore later in the
day on the 1013 Scarborough Swansea. As with Class 58's the use of
Class 56's on passenger trains through Dore has been limited,
although several had appeared on trains in their own right during
the 1980's, the appearance of 56009 at such a late date was however
truly remarkable. On the return from Scarborough the locomotive was
replaced by a Class 47/8 at Derby which had been battered
back to life. Probably much to the relief of the passengers, but not
enthusiasts, whom had suffered the delights of air-conditioned stock
with no air conditioning on a hot summer day.
5. 55015 05112/1980 1015 Nottintzham-Glas2ow Central
(assistant in the rear)
A train on which many 'Deltic' aficionados wish they had been
travelling on 5th December 1980 was the 1015 Nottingham-Glasgow
Central. On this date 47443 which was heading the train expired
at Clay Cross, fortunately it was being followed by a light
locomotive, surprisingly this was 55015 'Tulyar', which was
able to give rear end assistance as far as Sheffield. The
circumstances which brought 55015 'Tulyar' to be on the
Erewash Valley in the first place were that, earlier in the day, it
had been at York awaiting attention to one of its engines. It was
however commandeered to drag a 'Peak' to Toton and return light
locomotive to York. This is believed to have been the only occasion
on which a Deltic' has powered a timetabled passenger working
through Dore. Several examples on special workings have however been
10/0711977 55007 0918 Chesterfield-Newcastle Adex/1455
23/07/1978 55003 0920 Chesterfield-Carnforth Adex/1718
15/06/1980 55018 Tinsley Yard-Kings Cross 'TheWhite
Rose' Railtour (return leg)
11/03/1981 55002 York-Liverpool Lime Street Royal Mail
28111/1981 55022 York-Paddington/Paddington-York 'The Deltic
4. 8209 14/07/1970 0955 Tinsley Yard-Peak Forest freight
1357 Peak Forest-Tinsley Yard freight
The only freight working to make the charts is this one from 1970
headed by a Class 15. Readers are no doubt aware that the first ten
Class 15's D8200-9 were constructed by the Yorkshire Engine
Company at Meadowhall. Several, if not all, of these had test runs
from Meadowhall to Chinley in 19578, those confirmed being D8200 on
23rd October 1957, D8201 on 15th January 1958, D8202 on
16th January 1958 and D8203 on 13th February 1958, in addition
I have an undated report that D8209 was also so tested. For
many years this seemed certain to be the only occasion that these
distinctive locomotives would be seen through Dore.. However in
1970, Stratford dispatched several Class 15's, including 8209, to
Tinsley for mechanical attention and load bank testing. Following
completion of the work it is believed all but one, which was
actually condemned at Tinsley, were given test runs on local
freights. Fortunately 8209 was allocated to the daily trip
freight to Peak Forest and return for its test run, thus appearing
through Dore in a much more remarkable way than had been the
appearances on commissioning test runs.
3. D1045 05/05/1969 Cheltenham Spa-Sheffield control relief
viz. 1535 Paignton-Sheffield
A little known event, but as far as I am aware, the first appearance
of a Diesel Hydraulic through Dore, occurred on 5th May 1969. On
that evening D1045 'Western Viscount' headed out of
Paddington on the 1655 to Cheltenham 'Cheltenham Spa Express'. On
arrival at Cheltenham the cross country route was in chaos, due it
is understood, to adverse weather conditions in the West Country.
Thus locomotive and stock, the later may have been the X1P64 set,
were commandeered to run as a replacement for what is believed to
have been the heavily delayed 1535 Paignton-Sheffield, which they
did throughout to Sheffield! On arrival
at Sheffield the stock was stabled at Nunnery whilst D1045 'West(-.,rn
Viscount' was fuelled on Tinsley before returning Ecs.
2. 33046 07/06/1985 1246 Portsmouth Harbour-Leeds
2100 Bradford Interchange-Weymouth
In its four years of operation the Fridays only Portsmouth
Harbour-Leeds train gained a reputation for utilising notable
motive power, none more so than that used on 7th June 1985. As was
normal at the time, the train was headed by a Class 33 to Birmingham
New Street on this date, were, waiting to relieve it for the journey
to Leeds, was none other than 33046. This 'Crompton', much to the
astonishment of enthusiasts whom saw it, proceeded to work the train
throughout to Leeds. It thus became the first and to date, only
Class 33 ever to have worked through Dore on a timetabled train. Not
content with a straight run from Birmingham to Leeds 33046 returned
on the 2100 Bradford Interchange-Weymouth from Leeds which was
routed via Dore then via Nottingham and Leicester to Birmingham,
working this train throughout to Weymouth.
Several appearances of locomotives from the Class have however been
recorded on special workings, these being:
14/03/1984 33113 0805 Manchester Victoria-Sheffield
15/03/1984 33113 1040 Heaton-Stewarts Lane
29/09/1990 33042+33207 1630 Sheffield-Eastleigh 'The SuIzer Rose' Railtour (return leg)
04/03/1994 33116+DB13975025 Buxton-Wimbledon Infrastructure
(via Dore Curve)
The exploits of 33046 would almost certainly have put it in the top
position, due to its uniqueness as the only member of its class to
work through Dore under normal circumstances, had it not been for
what must indisputably be the most noteable diesel working through
Dore to date.
1. D1013 20/01/1977 0730 Swansea-Leeds
By 20th January 1977 only five 'Westerns' remained in service with
the class having less than six weeks left to go before final
withdrawal. It therefore seemed from this that D1045 'Western Viscount' would
be the only one ever to have appeared at Dore, however the Diesel
Hydraulic era had one final surprise left. D1013 'Western Ranger' had
spent the previous few days in the Swansea area including working a
Rugby Special from Carmarthen to Cardiff and return on the 15th. In
order to return it to its then more normal duties it was allocated
on the 0730 Swansea-Leeds as far as Cardiff were it was to be
replaced. The Railway Observer records that on arrival at Cardiff no
replacement locomotive was available, nor was one available at
Gloucester, thus with a Gloucester driver in charge it kept going
and with no replacement locomotive at Birmingham New Street it kept
on going. Thus it passed through Dore and in my opinion into the
records as almost certainly the most noteable diesel working of the
diesel era. The story is well known to many that on reaching Leeds
it was refuelled and returned West at the head of the 1443
Leeds-Plymouth, thus returning to its home depot of Laira in a
rather roundabout but spectacular manner.
Everyone has their own opinion of what does and does not constitute
a notable working. It therefore follows that readers may well have
differing opinions of what should have been included and what should
have been left out. A few notes therefore follow regarding omissions
and possible future entries should further information come to
Personally I have no record of any other Diesel Hydraulics, other
than the two mentioned above, working through Dore under their own
power. That is unless of course D9505 and D9534 worked to
Earles under their own power. I have a note that D9505 was
transferred from Hull Dairycoates to Earles, presumably by rail, on.
26th September 1968 whilst D9534 also arrived at a similar time. Nor
have I any records of diesel electric Classes 16, 21/29, 26 or 3 1/0
working through Dore. Should however any of these have worked then
they would surely be new entries in an updated version of this
chart. Surprisingly, I have no records of Class 17'Claytons'
working, even though D8604-D8616 were allocated to Tinsley
and Barrow Hill between October 1964 and May 1966, during which time
it seems highly likely that examples would have appeared. It also
would seem possible that D8512, D8521 and D8598 may have
appeared whilst being used by the Railway Technical Centre in the
early 1970's. As to other diesel electric classes not normally
associated with workings through Dore. Class 23 'Baby Deltics' are
not believed to have appeared when in normal service, however, D5901 made
numerous appearances around 1973 when in use at the Railway
Technical Centre at Derby. Class 27's probably passed through fairly
frequently during the period March 1962 and March 1970 when D5370-D5415 were
allocated to Midland Line depots although I have few confirmed
reports. Subsequently only one is recorded under its own power, this
being 27048 on 25th August 1983 which passed through light diesel
returning to Scotland following works attention at Derby, this only
just missing inclusion in the charts. Class 28 'Metro-Vic's' are
believed to have appeared fairly frequently when new although as
with Class 27's I have few confirmed reports. It is also possible
that D5705 may have appeared whilst in use with the Railway
Technical Centre in the late 1960's/early 1970's.
Prototype locomotives are always difficult to consider in a context
like this, it not being easy to determine whether trial running on a
particular route is par for the course or exceptional. The task has
been made easier however here, as I have no records of the principal
prototypes, D0260'Lion', D02807alcon', HS4000 'Kestrel', DELTIC,
or DP2 having ever worked through Dore, however, I feel sure
some of them must have done so. Similarly I have no records of the
early mainline diesels designed by the Southern Railway,
10201-10203, or by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway, 10000,
10001, 10100, 10800, working although it seems likely that some
of the later at least would have appeared.
Returning to the original point made in the first paragraph, in
order to appease my critic, I will therefore rephrase the statement
about 50007 'Hercules' by saying that "at the time this
be the 'biggest locomotive to work through Dore since D1013
'Western Ranger' on 20th February 1977". I do however feel sure
that I and the Trawler spotter agree that D1013 'Western
Ranger' was indeed the 'biggest' diesel locomotive to work
through Dore in recorded history!
PENNINE QUIZ No.79
by I Shenton
1. What was the first name given to Ribblehead viaduct?
2. What name does EMU 321334 carry?
3. Holbeck depot had two different coloured headboards for The
Thames Clyde Express, one red and one black, for what reason?
4. What was LMS 2-6-4 tank 42389 claim to fame?
5. What was the route availability of a Peak Class 46?
6. What are the dimensions of a BR smokebox shed plate?
7. Which preserved railway destroyed by fire a Swansea and
8. What was the BR number of Southern Pacific 21C1?
9. What was the cost of a 1989 14 day 1st Class All Line Railrover?
10. Who named 37684?
Which loco hauled the first preserved run of Manchester Executive
12. Which Locos hauled the 'Three to the Sea' railtour?
13. What was the cost of the 1990/91 All Line Winter timetable?
14. On which date did the new 'Swinton curve' open to traffic?
15, Which depot had the last operational roundhouse?
16. On which date did "the Highwayman" commence running?
17. Where were the HST Power cars converted to DVT'S?
18. On which date was 40106 named?
19. On which date was 50016 withdrawn?
20. What was the pre-TOPS Number of 47333?
21. How many Class 141 Railbuses run in blue and grey Livery?
22. What was the total number of Class 24's built?
23. Which loco did David Penhaligan M.P. name?
24. What name did BR Mk3 coach carry?
25. From which date did certain steam locos carry a broad yellow
stripe on the cab side?
PENNINE OBSERVERS NOTES
Summer holidays in Scotland appear to have been popular this year
with more than one member enjoying the 20.20 Euston-Inverness as far
as Carstairs with 87019, where 37214/099 took over for the rest of
the journey on July 10th.
The following couple of days saw much Class 37 activity in the
Inverness area with the following workings being observed on the
37403 07.10 Kyle-Inverness. 37156 10.40 Inverness-Kyle, 37428 10.15
Inverness-Edinburgh and 15.40 return, 37431 09.25 Edinburgh-Inverness and 14.30 return, 37685/170 20.10
The 12th saw the following workings:-
37156 07.10 Kyle-Inverness, 3763/505 20.21) Euston-Inverness,
37427 10.15 Inverness-Edinburgh and 15.40 return, 37403 10.40
Inverness-Kyle and 17.05 return, 37425 12, 40, Inverness-Kyle and
Wednesday July 13th found 156454/478, 158709/7021,730 a[[ stabled
at Inverness due to RMT strike action. True to form the sun
shone all day as it probably has on each strike day since.Thursday again found 37403 heading the 07.10
37428 on the 10.40 Inverness-Kyle and 37427 on the 10.15
Inverness-Edinburgh. 37255/154 headed an Elgin bound freight service
white 37232 worked the 09.25 Edinburgh- Inverness with 37088 on the
The 09.50 Glasgow Queen St-Oban and 16.00 return was in the hands
of 37088 on the 16th with 37156 working the 21.18 Edinburgh-Perth.
RES Liveried 47763 was seen at Inverness depot throughout the week.
Withdrawn Loco's at Inverness were
26035142/36125102104/01107/03105/32, 47643 and at Perth
A similar trip by other members during August saw 37113/087 on the
overnight Edinburgh-Aberdeen steeper forward from Carstairs on the
5th. 37240/275 worked the overnight Edinburgh-Inverness and
371881154 the Inverness-Edinburgh steeper. Also on the 5th, 37427
powered the 09.25 Edinburgh- Inverness and return with 374301232
working Inverness-Kyle services.
The 6th found 37240/275 head a 'Pathfinder Tours' from
Inverness-Wick - "The Grampian Highlander". 37188/154 worked the
overnight Edinburgh-Aberdeen and 371131087 the Edinburgh-Inverness.
37152 saw employment on the 10.48 Inverness-Kyle and return with
37232 the 12.40 working. 37100 also saw use on the 10.15
Inverness-Edinburgh and return. the 09.25 Edinburgh- Inverness was
in the hands of 37099. Class 20s were seen at Inverness on the weedkilling train when 20901/4 put in an appearance on the same
The overnight Inverness-Edinburgh on the 6th used 37113/087 with
371881154 similarly employed on the Aberdeen-Edinburgh service. The
return Grampian Highlander Inverness-Aberdeen saw 372401275 used.
37692/3 were used on the overnight Edinburgh-Inverness on the
following night with 37113/87 used on the Edinburgh-Aberdeen.
37152 was amongst locos used on the Kyle services on this date. The
8th found a freight service arrive at Inverness behind 37069/73 with
another freight bound for Aberdeen seen at Dundee behind
37240/37275. The 15.40 Edinburgh- Inverness saw a different pairing
in the shape of 37510/428 and on the 10th 37510 was on its own
working the 10.15 Inverness-Edinburgh, whilst 37099 saw employment
on the 09.25 Edinburgh-Inverness. 47833 visited Inverness on the
'Royal Scotsman' also on the 10th.
May 28th found the following locos seen at Crewe Diesel
depot :- 31242/455, 37407/414/418/421,
47234/295/360/467/562/572/701/767, 86426/609, 90017/22/149.
Seen at the station were 86224/241/401/430/634/5 and 87101, whilst
at the same time at the Heritage Centre were 03073, 08735, 20188,
45149, 47488, 50017, 82008, D172, D1048, D7523 and 71000 Duke of
Gloucester. 1868 'Elizabeth' is allegedly at Safeways Superstore!!.
86216/91233, 87001114/29, 90011/12 were all on WCML expresses.
47826 headed the 09.00 Poole-York through Swinton on Jury 9th white
3127116 headed a special and 37225/298 a freightliner service.
Sister Loco 37884 headed a ballast working, 58023 added variety when
it worked an oil train with 60022 seen on a steet train. 56083/60078
worked Light engine.
Pathfinder 'Donny Deviator' railtour of Juty 10th saw a great
variety of motive power with 58034 working the 09.05
Derby-Doncaster section, 3769418 the 11.42 Doncaster/Silverwood
Colliery, 56077 the 12.34 Silverwood-Doncaster (top and tailing),
56135/068 the 13.48 Doncaster-Drax-Doncaster and finally 3127116 the
July 23rd found 370631015 head a 'Rail UK', Scarborough-Carlisle
via Settle & Carlisle which returned via WM to Preston then to
Carnforth, Clapham, Skipton, Leeds to York where 47773 worked
forward to Scarborough.
July 30th found North West services in the hands of Class 31s when
31410 headed 12.08 Man Vic-Blackpool, 31432 16.04 Preston-Liverpool
and 31155 13.10 Holyhead-Blackpool which ran two hours late
following the failure of 37418 at Chester.
Another variety of power was seen at Swinton on July 30th with
47814 on the 17.25 York-Derby, 47049 a freightliner, 58048 and 60038
on oil trains, 60007 on a steel train and 56046 light engine.
A rarely reported line Is the preserved Foxfield Light railway and
on July 31st their gala saw steam Locos No.2, 11, 'Hawarden',
'Whiston', and 'Wimblebury' working services and freight trains up
Foxfield bank with banking engines.
Noted in the Liverpool, area on August 1st were 08666 at Allerton,
31270, 60097 at Edge Hill and 31439 & 86228 at Lime St.
Fours days Later 90006 was at Runcorn with 90129 at Speke,
31439/65, 86101/259, 87021 were at Lime St.
Also on the 5th, Longsight played host to 08252/260/720.
August 9th saw 31410 work the 06.40 Blackpool-Liverpool, 37425 the
07.08 Blackpool-Man Vic and 31465 the 07.21 Blackpool-Man Plc. Two
days later found 37425 again In action this time the 10,08 Man VIc-Southport with 31439 on the 12.16 Blackpool-Liverpool, and 31465
on the 17.33 Man Vic-Blackpool.
Seen at Didcot on June 18th on freight services were 37702, 47314,
47326 and 56114. 08523 was station and yard pilot. 37251/901 and
47851 were noted light engine. 37010/12/42/65/98/703, 47060/349 and
60099 were stabled.
Seen at Eastleigh on June 19th were 33030/109/116,
47051/21013/8/229/2931306/337/360/3, 56007, 60006/44/94.
Doncaster Works open day of July 10th found the following Locos,
25206, 31159/46, 37252/424/507/689/99/713, 47401/675/786/8,~1/3,
56006/15/3419/48/66/69/109, 58001/11, 60050, 89001, 91024, D212,
E27000, RFS No. 11
Valiant, 1247, 4771 Green Arrow and 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley.
July 18th saw a naming ceremony at Hull's King George Dock when
56039 was named 'ABP Port of Hull.'
The 25th found 37884 at Hull Paragon and on the 16th 60088 worked
the Tilcon aggregate train Into Hull. Seen at Worksop on August 1st
were 31191, 58027130, whilst at Woodhouse 58043/5 were seen. Noted
at Sheffield on August Sth were 47828 and 60061 with 08607, 31191
and 56130 at Worksop.
An evening visit t o Retford on August 1st found 47716,
91005/11/1712218/9130 pass through all within one hour.
An overseas visit to Vannes, Brittany in June saw electric 25208 on
a service to Quimper with TGV's 343 and 397 on Parts services.
Shunter 78248 was yard pilot.
TGV's 324 and 405 were also seen on Paris services and electric 25545
stabled In the station.
Thanks go to Messrs Slater, Dewing, Caddick for Information.
Gravy Train Defies Strike
The following men are aboard the Gravy Train and refuse to be
Jim Butler is Chairman of European Passenger Services which will run
the cross-channel rail link. He Is a former senior partner of KM
Peat Marwick McLintock which is still celebrating a £2.9m contract
for providing tax advice to the privatised railway.
Sir Christopher Foster Is the new deputy chairman of Railtrack. He
is still a senior partner at Coopers & Lybrand, which is still
celebrating all sorts of luscious contracts from the privatised
Christopher Chope junior minister of transport 1990-92 and
prospective Tory candidate for Bournemouth East and Christchurch is
a consultant to Ernst and Young, which is still celebrating the
£680,000 contract It won for advising on new Information systems for
the privatised railway.
Anyone for Golf?
Despite its current difficulties, BR is going ahead with plans to
build a £600,000 golf course for management trainees, hard on the
heels of impending financial disaster.
The nine-hole course will be built on 79 acres at The Grove
management training centre, Watford, despite it being only 50 yards
away from an existing 18-hole course.
EXCUSE ME, BUT DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?
(Or, How to survive at Pennine meetings)
One of the daunting things about taking up a new interest, is the
jargon involved. The Pennine Railway Society understands this
problem and whilst we cannot offer to translate everything the new
enthusiast is likely to encounter, we offer, for any new members (and
a few of the old ones), this guide to getting by at our fortnightly
meetings. on the left is a selection of the common phrases used, on
the right is the English translation.
Nah then. Chief!
I like that slide.
My Lord, What a monster!
That slide also meets with my approval. only more so.
That's it, I'm
I approve of that slide so much, I must go and lie down in a
The Chairman has a couple of announcements.
Prepare to have your senses dulled for twenty minutes.
Postcards. feelthy postcards!
The President has arrived.
This train was on an empty stock working.
It's a Sheffield United football special.
Best of order, please!
If you lot in the corner don't shut up, there will be trouble.
The membership fee might have to be raised.
That dead-cert at Newmarket fell.
Sex on wheels.
50041. (For explanation, see Robin Havenhand)
Looks like rain again.
My beer is cloudy.
That looks like Basingstoke.
Alright, so it's Aberdeen.
Weld welcome volunteers to give a slide show.
We're desperate for volunteers to give a slide show.
That's an unusual slide, Mr Skinner!
Good Lord! It's in focus!
The AGM is your chance to have your say.
Prepare to have your senses dulled for two hours.
Social evenings are held at the Corporation Brewery Taps, Cleveland
Street, Doncaster, on the lst and 3rd WEDNESDAYS of every month.
Meetings start at 20.00hrs promptish and all are welcome, members and
non-members. Entry into our private suite is absolutely free
(although either a silver collection is taken towards society funds
or else our President holds a raffle with many varied prizes to be
won). An excellent evening's entertainment Is assured.
Our Autumn Fayre Is shown below.
WEDNESDAYS AT EIGHT-DON'T BE LATE-BRING A MATE
GUARANTEED NO STRIKE ACTION.
Wednesday 21 September - Illustrated show. Artist to be
Wednesday 5 October - Pennine Slide Competition. Our extremely
popular annual event. Bring along 4 of your railway slides which you
think will catch the judge's eye. Cash prizes and trophies to be
Wednesday 19 October -
Pennine's Top Real Ale Man (TRAM), Neil Taylor Slide show (subject
Wednesday 2 November -
Robin Havenhand (Gorby). Slide show. Many a fine slide will be
"lobbed" in our direction.
Wednesday 16 November -
Tony Smith (Retford). A welcome return.
Wednesday 7 December -
Pennine Shield Quiz Competition. Come along and support our boys in
a test of railway knowledge.
Wednesday 21 December -
Celebrate Christmas early at our annual Eeevility night. A fun night
for all. Bring along your slides to entertain us. Any subject - no
restrictions-M Barrass anyone.