|THE PENNINE RAILWAY SOCIETY MAGAZINE
No. 2 MARCH 1975
(As the original copy of this
magazine was of too poor a quality to scan, the Committee would like
to thank Linda Bladen for re-typing the contents)
President. Geoffrey Bambrough
Membership Sec. Michael May
Chairman & Fixtures Sec. Robin Skinner
Treasurer John Sanderson
Magazine Editor. Jon Davis
NOTES FROM THE COMMITTEE
First of all we would like to thank you all for the support over the
past few months. Membership is beginning to swell and we hope for
your continued support in the near future.
As you will have noticed, we have had to temporarily abandon
magazine style format. This is due to technical reasons, but we hope
to restore to original format soon, together with this improved
quality of printing. We feel that this loss is more than compensated
for by the improved quality. At last it has been possible to publish
a trips programme and we hope that you will support these trips as
well as the recent one to Doncaster, which was fully booked. If you
know of any BR excursions or special fares from your area, please
let the Fixtures secretary Know as quickly as possible, so that
visits may be arranged to take advantage of these. Any other visit
suggestions are also welcome, and at the moment plans are being made
for the last day of service trip to the Bridport branch and for an
all-line Rail rover holiday. The details of these trips should be
ready for the next magazine.
Finally a grumble. As usual contributors to the magazine have been
pitifully few, and we would appeal for more contributions to make
your magazine better. The Editor wishes to thank all those who have
contributed, and hopes for their continued support.
As promised in the last magazine, a programme of trips has been
planned in conjunction with the Holiday Preview excursions for the
Sheffield Area. First of all here is a list of the previews,
together with price and picking up points. Code: M-Mexborough
;R-Rotherham ;B-Barnsley; S-Sheffield; C- Chesterfield.
Booking Date Price
CSRM Berwick & Edinburgh
1st March 11 Feb.
CSR Carlisle &
15 March 25 Feb.
& Plymouth 29 March
CSB Berwick &
Edinburgh 31 March
CSR Perth &
Winchester, Portsmouth 12 April
Valley Railway 19 April
MRSC Exeter Circular Tour
26 April 8 Apr.
MRSC Cardiff & Tenby
BSC Torbay Steam
Railway 10 May
CSB Edinburgh &
Dundee 17 May
Visits organised in connection with these will be as follows: 1
March : Glasgow Works, Eastfield. 29 March : Laira (Subject to
permit) 12 April : Eastleigh Shed & Works. 3 May : Cardiff, Ebbw Jn;
Landore, Radyr, Barry. 17 May : Haymarket, Townhill, Thornton Yard.
If you are interested in any of the above Previews and want to book
through the society, send your money before the booking date given,
or in the case of those where no date is given as soon as possible,
to JOHN SANDERSON (address overleaf), who will make arrangements.
Details of costs of shed/works visits are not yet known, but if you
are interested in these, say so with your booking for the train and
then you will be advised as to costs when these are known. If you
are only interested in the visit i.e. want to get your own train
ticket, please write to Neil Webster, who will send details when
available. PLEASE ENCLOSE A STAMPED ADDRESSED ENVELOPE WITH ALL
LOCOMOTIVE STOCK ALTERATIONS
W/E 7th December:
1592-GD; 1715-W.Reg; 1724-GD; 1950-GD; 47008-W.Reg; 47109-LMR;
47153-YK; 47178-LMR. Fitted Dual Brakes: 31147, 37246.
3 W/E 28th December:
08004-BG.Fitted DB: 31135/210, 37249. EMU:56479-FP.
2 W/E 11th January:
03157-BG; 08044-HI; 08548-DR; 08745-CR; 20054-TI;
25104/5/6/7/302-LMR; 31278/90-TE; 31280/1/4-IM; 37057/9-IM;
37080-GD; 37084/7-TE; 37109-MR; 40050-GD; 40052-HM; 47016/135/60-SF;
47039/50-TE; 47051/2-GD; 47255-GD; 47413/4/5-FP; 47528-GD;
47542/4/9/52-HO; Fitted DB:31302; DMU: 50387,56432-FP. Correction
W/E 16.11.74: 51279-FP not 51274.
W/E 18th January:
37082-TE; 37116-SF; 40155-GD. Renumbered 50 to 45040; 69 to 45047.
W/E 25th January:
08778-W.Reg; 08889-SB; DMU: 50380/1,56071/134-BG.
W/E 1st February:
37028-GD; 37054-MR; 47107/290-LMR; Fitted DB:40007.
W/E 4th January:
7011-Store; 7028-Withdrawn; 7029-Store. DMU: New: Unit 252001 cars:
W/E 11th January:
1003/35-Withdrawn; 31257-OC; 08117/9-EJ; 08844/6-LMR; DMU:
51128/41,59357-CF; 51340/81,59491-BR. Correction W/E 21.12.74:
50072/105,59009 remain at RG.
2 W/E 25th January:
08778-WS; 08795-SW; 08855-BR; 08889-E.Reg; 08891-LA;Fitted DB: 47122
2 W/E 7th February:
1031/44-Withdrawn; 47026/7/8/9-LA; 47056-CF; 47140/6-CF; 7022-STORE;
Period to 1/2/75:
81001-22-GS; 24001/4/5-LO; 25232/3/4-HA; 47144-
BS (exln). DMU: 50745-DE; 50874-HN(both ex-store).56482-Store.
Fitted DB:20216. Renumbered: 3529 to 08414; 3556 to
08441;3557-08442; 3243 to 08175;8118 to 20118.
London Midland Region
W/E 4th January:
W/E 11th January:
08019-DY; 08117/9-W.Reg; 3859-LR; 08844-KD; 08846-SP; 24001/4/5-LO;
24026/9-LO; 25056-LO; 25058-SP; 25065-TO; 25070-WN;
25104/5/6/7/302-BS; 25197/249-SP; 25232/3/4-ScR; 40003/21/45-SP;
2 W/E 25th January:
08622-DY; DMU 50315/33,50446/98,59126/65-TS on loan.
Fitted Dual Brakes:
Fitted ETH, SG removed
BR AWS fitted:
39 to 45033
41 to 45147
46 to 45067
54 to 45023
57 to 45042
75 to 45052
78 to 45054
84 to 45055
93 to 45057
97 to 45058
98 to 45059
103 to 45062
104 to 45063
105 to 45064
110 to 45065
115 to 45067
121 to 45069
122 to 45070
127 to 45072
130 to 45148
134 to 45076
136 to 45077
31197 to 31423
E3011 to 81009
E3020 to 81017
86044 to 86253
86047 to 86254
Southern Region had no transfers during the above periods. Also
reported are 40125/39/40-KD; 25006/8-TI Depot Code Alterations: The
following were altered from 5th January Bury now BQ; Carlisle New
Yard now KM; Kingmoor now KD; Westhouses now WT Birkenhead Central
(BK) deleted from list of depots.
Available on 31st March will be the new edition of our guide to BR
shunter stabling points, the only accurate guide to BR shunter
stabling points available today. Priced at 15p, this edition will
give full details of locos from all depots and is an invaluable
source of information. Orders should be sent to JON DAVIS, adding 5p
for postage and packing. (NB Persons who purchased our previous
guide can buy this publication for only 10p) For those of you who
are interested in reallocations, an even more up to date service is
available than this magazine. For £1 you can have a copy of the
reallocations as we receive them from the regions each month sent to
your address by post. Please write to Mr. Webster for a sample copy.
COACHING STOCK NEWS
E85000,E87042,M87838,M31036M,S360S,S1845S. NB: S360S is now
TRANSFERS: To Eastern
To London Midland Region:
To Southern Region: 1806/7/72/3,94181,94451,94836/88. To Scottish
To Western Region:
34001/25/45/50/9/98,34110,35199/200. Thank you to all f those who
have sent in information to make this column possible. We are
indebted to J. Sanderson, D. Wallace, P. Fox, M. Guy, M. May and N.
SOUTHBOUND FROM DONCASTER
By Chris (Streaker) Bennett.
I travelled recently on the 10.20 from Doncaster to
Peterborough, the 8.41 from Halifax to Kings Cross. The locomotive
was a class 47/4, no. 47422, allocated to Gateshead, and it was
supplying train-heating and electrical power to the nine-coach train
of 303 tons tare, 320 tons gross. Departure was 8½ minutes late,
because of the late running 8.25 from Newcastle, the 10.14 from
Doncaster to Kings Cross only. The 10.14 and 10.20 left almost
simultaneously, and so we were badly checked by signals for many
miles. At last we got away to good purpose, as the accompanying log
shows. We accelerated to 88 mph on the level before Retford, held 97
mph on the level in the Trent valley (46.5 seconds for the last 1¼
to milepost 126) and climbed hard to Grantham. We were still 8
minutes late leaving Grantham. What was going to happen down Stoke
Bank, the most famous of all the East Coast route banks? At least
105 mph, and possibly 110 mph could have been attained. It was
something of an anti-climax to average 94.8 mph from Little Bytham
to Helpston. Class 47s are not permitted to exceed 95 mph, and the
locomotive crew decided to keep close to that limit. The slow finish
from Werrington Junction was the final disappointment. Without doubt
no. 47422 was driven “all-out” between Bawtry and Grantham but was
eased substantially after milepost 95½. Unchecked we could have run
from Doncaster to Retford in 16 mins, and from Grantham to
Peterborough in 25 mins.-23 minutes with a normal approach to the
station. The three station stops totalled 3¾ minutes, against 7
minutes allowed, and so arrival at Peterborough was only 4 mins
late. With 8 minutes “recovery allowance” in the schedule thence to
Kings Cross, a punctual finish was easily possible.
NEWARK NORTH GATE 18
Barkston South Jn
L.N.E.R. SEMINAR 1975
The LNER study group are holding seminar at Doncaster College of Art
& Technology, George Gate, Doncaster, on 22nd March 1975. A series
of talks will be given on various topics embracing many aspects of
the LNER system, traffic and stock. Cost is £2.70, or £2 if lunch is
not required. Any interested members please contact Robin Skinner as
soon as possible.
FOR SALE Trains Illustrated
Modern railways Great Trains etc. From 1960 onwards. Various copies
available. Please contact Geoff Bambrough (address on page 1) for
NOTES AND NEWS
The 1975 holiday preview season from the Leeds Division opened on
8th February with an excursion to Bournemouth from Morley. The train
began its journey behind an immaculate 47425, but the outward
appearance of the engine was not reflected in mechanical soundness,
as it had to be replaced at Rotherham by 45016 due to train heating
boiler failure. The class 45 worked throughout to Bournemouth and
back. Other specials onto the eastern region have come from far and
wide. On 22nd February two specials were run from the Western region
to Bradford Forster Square. The first of these 1Z54 was an
advertised excursion from Paddington and was powered by 47068(OC).
The second was a Mystery (Misery?) excursion from the West of
England (1Z58) which was powered by 47192(CD). On the same date a
football excursion from Nottingham to Wadsley Bridge was formed of
2x3 car DMU's. The following day a military special from Edinburgh
to Brandon was hauled by an unidentified class 40.
During early February further class 25s arrived at Tinsley. Noted so
far have been 25006/7/8 and the transfer of 25011 is anticipated. A
further unusual visitor to Tinsley has been DB968002, which is being
used to heat two research dept. coaches and a sleeping car. The unit
was previously at Landore.
SOUTHERN REGION A visit to
Southampton Docks on 8th February produced 3 class 07 shunters in
the western docks (no.8 gate). The remainder of the class were at
Eastleigh shed and works, and the latter was also host to two of the
long since withdrawn members of this class. All 4-REP units have
been delivered and are in service, but of the new 4TCs 433 has
latterly been stored at Strawberry Hill awaiting its fourth coach to
make up the set. 4-EPB unit 5198 was noted at Derby Litchurch Lane
works on 22nd Feb. 5202 is also reported to be there, both for
internal refurbishing. The prototype 2-PEP unit 2001 has been
disbanded for conversion to 25kv overhead as well as 3rd rail 650kv
in order to perform trials in connection with the Kings Cross
suburban electrification. As a result the 4-PEP units have been
reformed as follows:
4001-64305 (ex4002) 62427 62428
4002-64303 (ex2001) 62426 62429
i.e. 4002 has one unpainted aluminium MBSO and the two cars for
conversion are 64300 and 64301 (ex4001).
SCOTTISH REGION A visit to Ayr on
18th January produced 19 locomotives consisting of 5 x class 08, 2 x
class 27, 10 x class 20, and 2 x class 24. 14 DMU's were also
present including ex Glasgow – Edinburgh cars 79165/470, and 51017,
which was derailed in the shed yard. The 79XXX series cars, which
were withdrawn in October 1972, are now dispersed far and wide for
cannibalisation, with several at Swindon Works in addition to the
venues listed in the last magazine. The final fates of these
vehicles should be interesting. On 10th January two DT shunters were
to be seen in Glasgow, with 2426 at Polmadie and 06008 at Eastfield.
Polmadie also held 06003 on this date, as well as the usual
Claytons. Unusual visitor to York on 21st February was 37152(ED)
possibly en route to the works.
LONDON MIDLAND REGION Mark III
rolling stock has begun to emerge from Derby Carriage Works, and on
22nd February M12006/7 were noted at Etches Park, with several other
examples ready at the works. The stabling point on this date held
08614(BS) and 08387(EH), ex-works. Expected to be delivered to the
Midland project group premises is 46203 “PRINCESS MARGARET ROSE”
obtained on long-term loan from Butlins. The loco is later expected
to pass through Derby Works. A London Midland trip on 26th January
revealed the following quantities of locos, Buxton 6, Cockshute 13
(4 DMU's), Chester 19 (84 DMU's), Birkenhead 14 (4 DMU's), Edge Hill
17, Allerton 9, Garston Dock 5, Hall Road 13 EMU's. The ex-London
District sets currently in Doncaster Works are undergoing conversion
to Departmental units in connection with the new underground line in
Liverpool, and in consequence are having doors fitted in the front
ends to meet legal requirements.
WESTERN REGION Withdrawal of class
52s continues apace, but Hymeks seem to have a temporary reprieve
due to lack of suitable replacements, and at the time of writing
7017/8/29 remain in traffic, with 7011/22 stored. The HST is due to
enter traffic on 17th March from Old Oak Common, but car W40500 was
still at Etches Park on 22nd February.
As usual in connection with the Scotland v Wales rugby match at
Murrayfield, many specials are booked to run around the weekend of
1st/2nd March, commencing with 5 on 27th February provided there is
no industrial action by signalmen on this date. Details of motive
power on these excursions would be welcomed for the next magazine.
For the above information we are
indebted to: J.Sanderson, “Rasputin”, P. Antcliffe, D. Wallace, D.
Morris, N. E. Webster, M. Guy, M. May, J. Davis.
DONCASTER WORKS The next
trip to Doncaster Works and shed will be on Sunday 27th April 1975.
Bookings to Mr. N. E. Webster.
LATEST INFORMATION Entering
Doncaster Works 25th February 1975: 76049, 03066, 31141 (fire
damage) 31006 has now left the Works in ex-works condition. 25011
noted passing light engine through Doncaster Station. 37147 noted
passing Doncaster on 4E97 Freightliner. All the above were seen on
25th February 1975.